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I made the following revision to the constitution above on 11/23/11:

I have removed all wording for dues. If this constitution is adopted in its current form, and down the road we would like to have dues, we will have to add them via constitutional amendment.


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I made the following revision to the constitution above on 11/29/11:

Presumably, given my form of the constitution, there will be a greater number of active members. In response to this I have changed required quorum for the termination of an officer and passing an amendment from 3/4 to 3/5.

I have also modified the wording so online ballots will be allowed. This was always the intention of both mine and Jayne's constitution.



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Hey who's ready for a REALLY long post?
(Insert TL;DR stuff here)
Starting from the top:

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1. Membership

a. I have completely removed the Blue Shirt/Black Shirt concept. This seems to me to be one of those ideas that work well in theory but poorly in practice. I don’t want to keep track of all this, do you? We have hardly been able to keep a list of active members together for the past four years, we would never be able to keep up with all this. Also, I don’t like the idea of giving people labels. I don’t doubt the good intentions of the concept. At first I was pumped about its vision and promise, but ultimately I don’t think people would care enough to play along. Like Veleno, my constitution doesn’t believe in shirts.



A can see your point. I agree to a point. Really you're correct in stating we should all be equal, because really that's what this should be about. Everyone has voice, everyone can fill a need, everyone is welcomed. I understand that. Yes, I'd kinda like to see Black/Blue shirts, however, Finn has it right. We should all be one unit and one voice. Also, get used to be Finn being right in this post.

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b. A member is either “active” or “inactive”. An inactive member can’t vote. In order to remain “active” you have to have been to an event or practice in either the current or prior season. Membership does not expire.

c. I have removed the idea of “Non-Combatant”. I’m not saying you have to fight in order to be a member, I’m just saying you have to meet the same requirements as everyone else. Similarly, I don’t think this would cause a problem of too many non-coms. My goal is to simplify the constitution as much as possible. I just don’t think making a distinction for non-combatants is necessary.



Again, I'm ok with this. Really what I'd like to see from the "Non-Com" rank is something social for the unit. because we're not just fighters and unitmates, we're friends. Like I said in my post from forever ago, I'd like to see a non-com host a party, plan a trip, idk something for the unit we can all enjoy outside of Dag, but, brought to you by Dag. It's cool to see the guy you fight all the time acting silly or just goofing around. Idk might just be me, but, personally If I get a chance I'm hosting some unit parties. And everyone is invited (minus Caboose, he is never invited)

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d. I have maintained the proposed membership requirements for admittance. I would even support beefing them up. I would like there to be a significant upfront commitment to get into the group but not an ongoing one. Once you are in, you are in.



e. No more “dues”. We are no longer an RSO, we don’t need dues. If you want to contribute to the unit, please do, as much or as little as you would like. Jayne’s constitution had a sophisticated dues scheme. It was actually quite fair and not all that demanding. Its aim was to encourage participation, but I don’t like these sorts of ongoing requirements. Everyone is in a different situation. We all have a different level of interest in the game and ability to “pay dues”. No more dues. Once you are in, you are in. This will hopefully end all the “active member” games that have been played in the past as well.



Completely agree. Finn is right.



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2. Sub-Units

a. This is such a cool idea. Honestly, it saddens me to kill it, but I truly think the authors were being overly ambitious. I don’t think it will work, at least not now. If we want to try something like this, we should make it a separate vote. Ultimately, it relied on the black shirt/blue shirt idea, so it has to go. Also, it brokers power, and contradicts the “keep it simple stupid” focus I would prefer to have. Hopefully people will still have sub-units, and maybe we can encourage it as a unit somehow (like the unit flag idea Varg had a while back), but I’m not buying into this idea as it stands.



COMPLETELY AGREE. Look I know we love our sub-units. i know they add flavor to the unit and it means a lot to people. BUT, WE ARE FURY OF THE CALLED. WE ARE ALL PART OF IT. And I'd like it to remain that way (unless you want to go that,s cool). I didn't mind what happened to the sub-unit section ,but, I want this more. One unit, one voice. Finn is right



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a. I have mostly left the positions alone. I considered removing all but the Master at Arms and Treasurer positions, but I do think it is helpful to have “officers” who are “responsible” for things.


b. In order to be compliant with Eryndor bi-laws we need to have a community arsenal. I made the Master at Arms responsible for its management because I assume the Master at Arms will have the best attendance. Ultimately I don’t care who takes care of the arsenal, but we need to have one.



I think we need a leadership, and I actually propose later on that we wrap up the Sage into the leadership. Sorry, when people don't have a strong leadership, they crumble. If we didn't have one we would to. There would be a new fight every week on who does what and how it should be done. Better to define the positions and place them to people. As it stands right now I like what is proposed. Minus the Sage thing. More later.

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c. Changed treasurer’s monthly post to quarterly.



I think it should be monthly

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d. Sage. I really wanted to take the hatchet to this position. With all the changes I have made it will be mostly honorary, but I have kept this position as well as its accompanying committee intact. It allows the veteran members a slightly amplified voice. We need to take care of our elders, and this is a good way to do it without giving them the reigns. I’m reluctant, but I’ll go with it. I consider this my biggest compromise to the overall approach I am taking.



I propose that whoever is elected Sage, sits with the officers. I believe he should have a voice and be herd in unit/officer matters. His duties are:
a. PRIMARILY to advise the officership on action to be taken
b. To meet with the Loremaster an ensure the unit history is correct, current, and up to date
c. To speak with the other member of the Fury and advise them on courses of action to take within the unit. Examples include: how to build weapons, where rides can be found, who may be able to offer aid on a specific topic, offering weapons training when an where needed, etc.
d. If the officership comes to a draw on a vote and the Master-At-Arms is not present the Sage will hold the deciding vote.

C and D can be changed. I hope they will be actually. I just think it would be nice to have someone in the officership that has a voice and a vote with all there years of experience in the unit.

The committee I see little use for. We already have an officership why have another committee.

I agree that is should be an HONOR. If someone is elected Sage they should be someone deserving of that title. Someone who has been through the units ups and downs and has always been there for it.

Finn is mostly correct.

Also, I couldn't find the quote, but, I believe that if we have a Quatermaster he should be in charge of the arsenal, it's his job.

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4. Awards

a. I fully support knots.

b. I fully support mastery badges.



I fully support Finn's support. I want that Skirmisher badge.

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5. Other

a. I changed regular meets so that they can be held at any time by any one so long as relevant and important matters are communicated to the unit (it’s an honor system). The campaigning period still exists for votes, so I don’t see this being a problem.



Idk if this is already in the constitution ,but, I'd like to see in writing that the officer will ANNOUNCE there meetings. And that only in the case of an emergency or crisis, will they ban members from attending. Idk if this is needed, but, I'd like to see that.

In short I'm printing this out and bringing it tomorrow. Maybe with the rest of Finn's constitution. Overall, most of Finn's changes make sense with his reasoning. I think this is something that needs to be discussed, but, I would like to see something similar to his constitution passed. I don't think it de-values the authors, I actually think it strengthens there cause. The authors of the original document want to stress democracy and free speech within this unit. And i think the fact that these changes are even being discussed honors there commitment to keeping this unit a place where all are herd and listened too.

We are the best unit in Eryndor,
I'll say it everyday, to every Dag player,
I'll shout it to whoever doesn't want to hear it,
Fury of the Called!



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We are the best unit in Eryndor,
I'll say it everyday, to every Dag player,
I'll shout it to whoever doesn't want to hear it,
Fury of the Called!




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